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fengshui
I am faced with crying times with this ALL|TALL|SMALL. with 40 rolls and no twelve yet. Please recommend me with a new approach. I don't think there is a better place to get the answer i'm searching for.
Feng shui is the ancient Chinese practice of placement and arrangement of space to achieve harmony with the environment.

Take (relatively safe) pass bets. Though there are many, many betting possibilities in the game of craps, the safest bets are, luckily, fairly simple. The simplest, most fundamental bet in the game of craps, the pass bet, is also one of the very safest, with a low house edge of 1.41%.

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  • The primary use for the 'Yo' (eleven) is to give the pass line player something extra on the come out. Since the Yo is a one-roll bet, some gamblers toss the dealers a 'dollar Yo,' which means that if the shooter throws an eleven on the very next roll, the player wins $15, but if anything else rolls, he loses his dollar.
  • H: Hard Way – a bet on 4,6,8, or 10 that wins only if the dice roll as pairs; 2-2, 3-3, 4-4, 5-5. Hi-Lo – a one roll bet on 2 & 12. Hi-Lo-Yo – a one roll bet on 2,12 & 11. Hot Dice or Hot Table – when players are winning. L: Lay bet – a bet that a dice roll will be 7 before the number you are placing comes up.

I am faced with crying times with this ALL|TALL|SMALL. with 40 rolls and no twelve yet. Please recommend me with a new approach. I don't think there is a better place to get the answer i'm searching for.


1) Set the dice with crossed sixes on top.
2) Rub your fingers on the felt slowly at least twice.
3) Gently pick up the dice with three fingers only.
4) Shout 'Come on boxcars! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!! Hard twelve one time!!!'
5) Forcefully launch the dice with a 25 degree loft and 2x revolution backspin angular velocity.
This technique works for me.*
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
WatchMeWin
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I don't typically play the side bets, but when I do, it is usually the All Small Tall bet. I see it hit much more often then the other side bets. So there is reason to believe that this can happen to someone several times a day.
Here is what I would do and the reasons why:
Scenario:
- 300 risked
- 3,000 is already won and locked away.
- 2 is needed prior to a 7 to win 18,000
- prior point was made so you are on a come out roll
My play assuming any 7 pays 5-1, if its 4-1 I would adjust a bit:
- Come out roll bet 10,000 on the DC, 700 on the 11 (Yo), 2500 on any 7, 100 on the 12
- if the 2 comes!!, you win the DC and the All bets but lose 7, 11, 12 bets (18,000 + 10,000-3,300 = 24,700)
- if the 3 comes, you win the DC and lose the yo, 12, and any 7 . still alive (10,000-3,300 = 6,700)
- if the 11 comes, you cover your DC bet but lose your 7, 12 bets . still alive (10,500-10,000-2,600 = -2,100)
- if the 12 comes, you lose your DC and Yo bet.still alive (3,000 - 3,200 = -200)
- if the 7 comes, you win any 7 bet and lose DC, Yo, and 12 bets (12,500 -10,000-800 = 1,700)
In the above scenarios, you are pretty well hedged positioned to win in all possible ways accept the Yo. If none of the above numbers are rolled on the come out , then you lost the any 7, yo, and 12 bets (-3,300) but you still have the 10,000 on the DC and you are positioned to win regardless of what the come out number is . You only care about the 2 or 7 at this point.
- if the 2 comes, you win the All bet . Congrats, at this point you have only lost out 3,300 from the any 7, Yo, and 12 for an aggregate profit of 14,700 (18,000 - 3,300). Your 10,000 DC is still up. You can take that down or even take half away if you want and let it ride.
- if the 7 comes , you win your DC minus your initial any 7, Yo, and 12 bets for an aggregate profit of 6700 (10,000-3,300 = 6,700)
With this played out scenario you basically guarantee yourself a profit of either 14,700 or 6,700. Give or take depending on the come out scenarios. If the yo comes a few times in a row on the come out, that will take away from the profit. rethinking. I may even put an extra 100 or 200 on the yo on come out roll.
I understand people like to go for the home run and think hedging is foolish. I disagree in scenarios where you can guarantee yourself a Win , whereas the probability of the home run play is very low ( 2 is .027 chance of hitting (1 in 36) If the probability of winning were to be much greater, say 50% or more, than I may not hedge depending on the risk/payout ratio.
Yo mentioned that this happens often. perhaps 5 times already or 5x a day. never hitting that last 2 number. always 7 out. if you lock in the 6,700 win each time . 5 x 6700 = 33,500. It adds up over time.
good luck!
unJon

I don't typically play the side bets, but when I do, it is usually the All Small Tall bet. I see it hit much more often then the other side bets. So there is reason to believe that this can happen to someone several times a day.
Here is what I would do and the reasons why:
Scenario:
- 300 risked
- 3,000 is already won and locked away.
- 2 is needed prior to a 7 to win 18,000
- prior point was made so you are on a come out roll
My play assuming any 7 pays 5-1, if its 4-1 I would adjust a bit:
- Come out roll bet 10,000 on the DC, 700 on the 11 (Yo), 2500 on any 7, 100 on the 12
- if the 2 comes!!, you win the DC and the All bets but lose 7, 11, 12 bets (18,000 + 10,000-3,300 = 24,700)
- if the 3 comes, you win the DC and lose the yo, 12, and any 7 . still alive (10,000-3,300 = 6,700)
- if the 11 comes, you cover your DC bet but lose your 7, 12 bets . still alive (10,500-10,000-2,600 = -2,100)
- if the 12 comes, you lose your DC and Yo bet.still alive (3,000 - 3,200 = -200)
- if the 7 comes, you win any 7 bet and lose DC, Yo, and 12 bets (12,500 -10,000-800 = 1,700)
In the above scenarios, you are pretty well hedged positioned to win in all possible ways accept the Yo. If none of the above numbers are rolled on the come out , then you lost the any 7, yo, and 12 bets (-3,300) but you still have the 10,000 on the DC and you are positioned to win regardless of what the come out number is . You only care about the 2 or 7 at this point.
- if the 2 comes, you win the All bet . Congrats, at this point you have only lost out 3,300 from the any 7, Yo, and 12 for an aggregate profit of 14,700 (18,000 - 3,300). Your 10,000 DC is still up. You can take that down or even take half away if you want and let it ride.
- if the 7 comes , you win your DC minus your initial any 7, Yo, and 12 bets for an aggregate profit of 6700 (10,000-3,300 = 6,700)
With this played out scenario you basically guarantee yourself a profit of either 14,700 or 6,700. Give or take depending on the come out scenarios. If the yo comes a few times in a row on the come out, that will take away from the profit. rethinking. I may even put an extra 100 or 200 on the yo on come out roll.
I understand people like to go for the home run and think hedging is foolish. I disagree in scenarios where you can guarantee yourself a Win , whereas the probability of the home run play is very low ( 2 is .027 chance of hitting (1 in 36) If the probability of winning were to be much greater, say 50% or more, than I may not hedge depending on the risk/payout ratio.
Yo mentioned that this happens often. perhaps 5 times already or 5x a day. never hitting that last 2 number. always 7 out. if you lock in the 6,700 win each time . 5 x 6700 = 33,500. It adds up over time.
good luck!


You are missing the scenario where point is established and made before a 2 is rolled and you are out the DC and all your other bets, and back to square one on the All All.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
WatchMeWin

You are missing the scenario where point is established and made before a 2 is rolled and you are out the DC and all your other bets, and back to square one on the All All.


You are absolutely right. My apologies. I was rushing to a meeting and did not think about that scenario. Shame on me. I will rethink this later.
'Winners hit n run. Losers stick around'
7craps

My play assuming any 7 pays 5-1, if its 4-1 I would adjust a bit: https://mac-soft-survey-moonbase-os-qmbja.peatix.com.

Just about every craps table I have seen the any7 pays 5 for 1 or 4 to 1. (different in England)
sure hope you agree and if not your ignorance (lack of knowledge or information.) is showing on that matter.
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- Come out roll bet 10,000 on the DC,

a DC bet is not allowed on the come out roll. never seen it, table or machine.
what tables do you play at that allow this?
the don't pass is allowed on the comeout roll.
I guess (could be wrong) you never really make these bets.
I have made many Lay bets over the years and find that almost 100% of players have no clue what they are.
I also agree you did not leave room for the point to be hit.
unJon

Just about every craps table I have seen the any7 pays 5 for 1 or 4 to 1. (different in England)
sure hope you agree and if not your ignorance (lack of knowledge or information.) is showing on that matter.
a DC bet is not allowed on the come out roll. never seen it, table or machine.
what tables do you play at that allow this?
the don't pass is allowed on the comeout roll.
I guess (could be wrong) you never really make these bets.
I have made many Lay bets over the years and find that almost 100% of players have no clue what they are.
I also agree you did not leave room for the point to be hit.

I assumed he meant DP.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
WatchMeWin

I assumed he meant DP.


U t correct. Of course. . i meant DP.
'Winners hit n run. Losers stick around'
WatchMeWin
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You are absolutely right. My apologies. I was rushing to a meeting and did not think about that scenario. Shame on me. I will rethink this later.


This was a really interesting post/scenario. The final answer is.. enjoy the 3000 you already won and hope for the best on hitting the 2. Lol. Unless you could somehow find some place that would allow you to lay the 2, theres no significant guarantee hedge worth while.
'Winners hit n run. Losers stick around'
fengshui
I am thankful for your response. There are many opportunities for hedging on the ALL|TALL|SMALL. I have experience at least 3 and 4 time per hour to lay 4,5,6,8,9,10 against one of the sides SMALL or TALL with $100 bet. Much appreciation for the many wizards here. Thank you.
Feng shui is the ancient Chinese practice of placement and arrangement of space to achieve harmony with the environment.

The term 'Proposition bets' corresponds to an extensive category of bet types in craps, which are largely considered risky and less suitable for inexperienced players due to the substantial house edge attached to them.

To place any type of proposition bet, players are required to become better acquainted with the craps table layout and the respective etiquette one needs to comply with when making such wagers.

Proposition bets are located at the very center of the craps table and are controlled only by the stickman. In order to place one such bet, players should call it out and then toss their chips in the layout's center section so that the stickman can position them in the respective betting area.

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While certain experienced players tend to occasionally incorporate Proposition bets or 'Props' into their betting pattern, it is recommended to avoid going to the extremes with those as sooner or later the built-in casino advantage will catch up to you, causing you to incur more substantial long-term losses.

Types of Proposition Bets

In general terms, most Props are one-roll bets, which means the outcome of a wager is determined by the very next roll of the dice. There is a smaller subcategory of Props, consisting of the so-called Hardways where bets can remain active for several rolls of the dice. Proposition bets have nothing to do with the Pass Line, whether or not the shooter will succeed in making their Point is irrelevant here.

As was already mentioned, these are not self-service bets, the chips for Props are placed by the stickman only.

When tossing their chips for a Proposition bet, players should be careful not to push the chips stacked in the center section of the table out of position. Deuces wild video poker. While Props can be placed at all times, players are expected to toss their chips before the stickman pushes the dice towards the shooter. Tossing your chips at the very moment the shooter is preparing to throw the dice is considered a major transgression as it violates the table's etiquette.

Aces

One of the most popular Proposition bets, the Aces wager, is frequently referred to as 'Snake-eyes'. In order to win with an Aces bet, the next dice throw must result in the number 2 being rolled. If you wish to place a one-roll wager on number 2, you are expected to call out 'Aces' or 'Snake-eyes' when tossing your chips on the table. Otherwise, no one will understand you.

As there is only one possible dice combination that adds up to a total of 2, the payout for the Aces bet is higher at 31 for 1. This indicates winners collect only $30, while the house collects their initial $1 stake. This bet goes hand in hand with a massive house edge and will actually cause players to lose money in the long term.

The Ace-Deuce

The Ace-deuce bet is frequently referred to as 'Three Craps' and wins when the next dice roll has a total of 3. In the game of craps, the number 2 is often called a 'deuce', while 1 is known as an 'ace'. The chances of the number 3 coming out are 2 out of 36, which corresponds to a payout of 17:1. Yet, players who win with this proposition bet are still paid only 15 to 1, which makes for a house edge of 11.11%.

The Yo

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This is yet another one-roll Proposition bet players are recommended to avoid. It wins whenever a single throw of the dice adds up to the number 11, which frankly is not too often.

Hot dice game. You're probably wondering why the bet is called 'Yo', but the reason is quite simple actually – 'eleven' sounds shockingly close to the way 'seven' is pronounced.

In order to avoid confusion, players are expected to call out either 'Yo' or 'Yo-leven' when tossing their chips for this Proposition bet. It pays out 15 to 1 with a built-in house advantage of 11.11%. The payout may be listed as 16 for 1, but you still receive $15 in exchange for a $1 winning bet.

Boxcars

Boxcars is a one-roll bet on the number 12. When placing one such bet, players are allowed to call out either 'boxcars' or 'twelve' as the terms are interchangeable. Since there is only one possible dice combination that adds up to a total of 12, the Boxcars are generally considered especially risky as 12 is not rolled as frequently. The payments and the house edge for Boxcars bets coincide with those of the Aces bet and are respectively 30 to 1 and HP 16.67%.

The High-Low

At this point, it becomes evident it would be impossible for you to keep track of what's going on at the craps table if you are not acquainted with the game's lingo.

Obviously, each Proposition bet has its corresponding nickname and the High-Low is by no means an exception. It differs from the rest as it is a two-unit bet, combining a Boxcars (High) and Aces (Low). The bet wins if the numbers 2 or 12 are rolled on the next dice throw. Bear in mind this subtype is not available in all casinos, but even if it is, often it's not displayed on the layout. The odds for a High-Low bet correspond to those of Yo-Leven and Ace-Deuce. The house edge amounts to about 11.11%.

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This is yet another one-roll Proposition bet players are recommended to avoid. It wins whenever a single throw of the dice adds up to the number 11, which frankly is not too often.

Hot dice game. You're probably wondering why the bet is called 'Yo', but the reason is quite simple actually – 'eleven' sounds shockingly close to the way 'seven' is pronounced.

In order to avoid confusion, players are expected to call out either 'Yo' or 'Yo-leven' when tossing their chips for this Proposition bet. It pays out 15 to 1 with a built-in house advantage of 11.11%. The payout may be listed as 16 for 1, but you still receive $15 in exchange for a $1 winning bet.

Boxcars

Boxcars is a one-roll bet on the number 12. When placing one such bet, players are allowed to call out either 'boxcars' or 'twelve' as the terms are interchangeable. Since there is only one possible dice combination that adds up to a total of 12, the Boxcars are generally considered especially risky as 12 is not rolled as frequently. The payments and the house edge for Boxcars bets coincide with those of the Aces bet and are respectively 30 to 1 and HP 16.67%.

The High-Low

At this point, it becomes evident it would be impossible for you to keep track of what's going on at the craps table if you are not acquainted with the game's lingo.

Obviously, each Proposition bet has its corresponding nickname and the High-Low is by no means an exception. It differs from the rest as it is a two-unit bet, combining a Boxcars (High) and Aces (Low). The bet wins if the numbers 2 or 12 are rolled on the next dice throw. Bear in mind this subtype is not available in all casinos, but even if it is, often it's not displayed on the layout. The odds for a High-Low bet correspond to those of Yo-Leven and Ace-Deuce. The house edge amounts to about 11.11%.

Craps & Eleven

Players who have placed a C & E bet collect whenever the next dice roll results in a total of either the Craps numbers 2, 3, and 12 or 11 (Yo-Leven). The built-in advantage for C & E bets is once again 11.11% but payouts might differ depending on which one of the four numbers is rolled. Thus, if any of the three Craps numbers are rolled, you will be paid out at 3 to 1, while the Yo pays 7 to 1. As this is a combined bet, consisting of two separate wagers (one on Craps and one on Yo), one part of the C & E always loses because it is impossible to roll both eleven and a Craps number at the same time.

The Hop Bet

There is no specifically designated area on the layout where the chips for Hop bets are placed, but this Proposition bet is available in most casinos. Players are strongly recommended to avoid Hop bets like the plague as they are extremely particular and the odds of winning with them are laughable. What makes this wager so unique is the fact it is the only bet placed by the boxman.

To put it briefly, the Hop is a one-roll wager which involves betting not only on the roll's total but on the individual numbers that add up to the said total as well. For example, you can bet on a pair of 6 (3-3) or on a non-pair of 9 (5-4). Typically, winning pairs pay out 30 to 1 and have an average house edge of 13.26%. Three musketeer games. Winning non-pair Hop bets usually have a payout of 15 to 1, which corresponds to a house edge of 11.11%.

The Horn

The Horn is a combination bet the outcome of which is determined by a single roll of the dice. It covers the Yo-leven and the Craps numbers.

Whenever a player places a Horn bet, the sum they put on stake will be equally divided between the four numbers. Thus, if you place $20 'around the horn', you practically place $5 on each of the following numbers – 2, 3, 12, and 11. If one of the four numbers is rolled on the next dice throw, you win with payouts of 30 to 1 for numbers 2 and 12 and 15 to 1 for 3 and 11. The remaining three numbers lose. Placing Horn bets is an awful idea as these four numbers are the hardest to roll in craps, not to mention the Horn is partnered with a house edge ranging between 11.11% and 13.89%.

The Whirl

The Whirl, also known as the 'World' bet is an interesting, though unprofitable combination between the Horn and the Any Seven bet. It matters not which of the two terms you use as craps dealers have not reached an agreement in this regard.

The Whirl/World is a five-unit bet. Four units are placed on the 'Horn bet' numbers 2, 3, 11, and 12 and the remaining one unit goes towards the Any Seven part of the Whirl. If we assume you have placed a $5 Whirl, a roll of Any Seven results in a push, 3 and Yo-leven will earn you $11, while 2 and 12 pay out $26. As only one of the five numbers can possibly win, you lose $4 in all cases.

Any Seven

One of the worst Proposition bets ever, the Any Seven (also called the 'Big Red') wins whenever one of the three possible combinations that add up to 7 is rolled.

As long as one of the combinations is rolled, you win and are paid at the rate of 4 to 1 which is a terrible proposition because the 'true' odds for 7 being rolled are actually 5 to 1. The house edge for this bet is outrageous and amounts to 16.67%.

Any Craps

Another outrageous Proposition bet players are advised to steer clear of at all costs is called 'Three-Way' and wins as long as one of the three Craps numbers is rolled on the next dice toss.

What makes this bet so disadvantageous?

Well, the Craps numbers are the ones that are less likely to get rolled as they have the smallest number of combinations that add up to their totals. There are only four possible combos between all three Craps numbers which indicate you should be paid at a rate of 8 to 1. You are, however, being paid 8 for 1, which practically corresponds to 7 to 1. This causes the house edge for this bet to soar to 11.11%.

Hardway Bets

The Hardways are a sub-category of the Proposition bets where the outcome of a wager is determined after several dice rolls. In most general terms, the Hardway bets win only when a pair of the same numbers is rolled.

We can distinguish between four subtypes of Hardway bets, namely Hard 6 (3-3), Hard 8 (4-4), Hard 4 (2-2) and Hard 10 (5-5). Real las vegas slots online.

The shooter throws the dice until the Hardway pair is rolled. If the number 7 is rolled prior to the pair, the Hardway bet loses. Hard 6 and Hard 8 have a house edge amounting to 9.09% and pay 9 to 1 (or 10 for 1). The built-in advantage for Hard 4 and Hard 10 bets is higher, at 11.11% as these two pay out 7 to 1/8 for 1. For further information proceed to the Hardway Bets section of our craps guide.

Conclusion

Some players consider Proposition bets a great way to diversify their gaming session. As there is no need to wait for a Point to be established, Props are a great way to pass the time in between Line bets instead of merely waiting for your Pass or Don't Pass bet to hit. However, it is recommended to refrain from placing such bets too frequently as they will cause you to incur greater losses in the long run. Overall, seasoned players and experts alike consider Proposition bets useless and advise novices to avoid them altogether.

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